you heard today from rupert murdoch that it is the most humble day. we try to explain openly and honestly what happened and we were very unhappy with the criticisms from the company. we aspire daily to have a great company. the criticisms were felt. >> tell us how often you spoke to various prime minister's, editors of news -- "news of the world" or chief executive of news international. how often would you meet tony blair or gordon brown and david cameron respectively? >> prime minister david cameron, i read the other day that we met 26 times. i don't know if that is correct. -and do my best to come back to you on an exact number. i am sure it is correct but i have never been to downing street when david cameron was prime minister. prime minister gordon brown and tony blair -- >> how regular is regularly? >> on prime minister gordon brown in the time he was in downing street and when he was chancellor i would have gone six times the year. >> tony blair? >> probably similar. in the last few years a little more. if you want me to cite numbers i can do